“Thank you for calling United Healthcare. Por blah blah blah Espanol, blah blah tres.”
You can’t even say “For English press 1. Por espanol tres”?
Are you upset that there are people that speak other languages than English?
Nope. I just think that since this is America and our de facto language is English, that we should put that first.
There is no “ours.”
I don’t like the fact that people come here illegally and then we bend to their needs when they should bend to ours.
You’re United Healthcare?
Because you don’t see me needing a phone option for Italian. You don’t see me needing a phone option for Slovak. You don’t see me needing a phone option for Gaelic. You don’t see me needing a phone option for Serbian. Of course, my people came here legally. And had to take those physical and medical exams to gain entry.
So businesses should only cater to their customers based on nationality?
Also, we don’t see other immigrants being appeased. There is no Arabic/Persian option. There is no Russian option. There are TONS of Vietnamese people in my area and there isn’t a Vietnamese option for them.
They don’t have a big enough presence in the market.
Why don’t you go to a south of the border country and try to get them to use English on government forms and their phone answering systems. Go see if they’ll do that in the Middle East. Go see if they’ll do that in Ukraine. Go see if they do that in Vietnam.
Ever been to Cancun?
But why should we expect people who break our laws by coming here illegally to learn our language and speak it to us.
1. Yes there is.
I am American by nationality and speak two languages. Neither of those are “ours.” If you’re trying to say that America’s language is English, you’re wrong because countries do not speak, only individuals do. If you’re trying to say that the language of the American people is English, then you’d still be wrong because, as you have already admitted, there are a multitude of different groups in this country speaking a variety of languages, none of those being exclusively “ours.”
2. No, but it is an American company and we are paying for it. We as in the consumer.
It is a private business, it is free to serve its customers how it sees fit.
3. Not about nationality. It’s pretty much about a unified national American community and being able to communicate with everyone. We cannot communicate if the people who come here don’t bother to learn our language. We learn theirs in school. They should attempt to learn ours if they live here.
Well I don’t really know how to address this, since I don’t care for government schools and would rather see education provided privately, free from government intervention telling them how and what to teach.
But again it’s not “our” language.
4. Yes they do have enough of a presence. And the very large majority of them are here legally.
They obviously do not have enough of a presence in the market. The reason businesses cater to Spanish speakers is because the benefits of doing so exceed the costs. The benefits of seeking the patronage of Spanish-speaking customers exceeds the costs of providing services in Spanish and hiring Spanish-speaking personnel. Such benefits are only realizable because the Spanish-speaking population in this country is big enough that engaging in such business practices is economically feasible. The reason you don’t have as many businesses catering to more groups other than just English speakers and Spanish speakers, is because catering to those groups, whose numbers are small in comparison, would cause inefficiencies (i.e. losses) for the business.
5. Cancun is a resort town. So yea, lots of the businesses there do have knowledge of English.
The same applies here, except that much of the Spanish-speaking populace in this country is obviously not here on vacation, but the result of people who immigrated here (illegally or otherwise). The reason you have businesses catering to them is simply because it is profitable, not because they’re giving them some sort of special treatment you’re being excluded from.
If your problem is with government forms and the like being written in Spanish, then I’d agree with you that they should be gotten rid of. However, I would go farther and say, and you being a conservative would agree that, government forms should be gotten rid of altogether since they are nothing more than a bureaucratic annoyance that hinder everyone, no matter what language you speak.
But so do the people at Disney World. They know alllllllll sorts of languages.
Exactly, “alllllllll sorts of languages.” And as I’ve already explained, the costs of catering to all of them would exceed the benefits.
But that doesn’t mean the people in some random place in Minnesota or Montana can speak Spanish just like the people in some random town in Mexico can speak English.
Obviously it’s the principle of it.
Businesses can do whatever the hell they want. I was never saying that UHC shouldn’t offer Spanish as an option. All of yous just assumed I was saying that.
The point of it all is that people should learn the de facto language of America
Btw, when I say “ours,” I mean de facto. Because as American citizens, our de facto language is English. That’s why all forms are automatically given in English unless otherwise requested. It is also why pretty much everything is done in English. Because our de facto language is English.
And it is beneficial that all residents of a country can speak the same language. Not out of nationalism or whatever (and I never understood what’s wrong with the concept of nationalism), but out of necessity to conduct business and law and whatever affairs.
I don’t care if businesses choose to offer Spanish options. I just think that not attempting to learn English should be discouraged.
Because like it or not, our de facto language has been English since 1776. And before that but we weren’t yet a country nor had we established our intent of independence. When we bought new lands, those people began to speak English. When there was massive influxes of immigrants, they learned English.
And the people who want to be American learn English. The people who just want to come here for a job and money but not to be an American don’t learn English. Which I don’t understand. Because immersion is the fastest way to learn a language. It’s like some people avoid it.
Anyways, I agree on the school thing. Public schools suck. I blame unions. In addition to government requirements and control. Government and unions are never nice when working together. It’s like an axis of evil.